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Inquest: Manner & cause: Death of Susan Mary McVean & Alexander Cameron McVean


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19620411 Evidence by William Ronald Torr, Coroners Court, Townsville;

Inquest: Manner & cause: Death of Susan Mary McVean & Alexander Cameron McVean


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19620411 Evidence by William Ronald Torr, Coroners Court, Townsville;

Inquest: Manner & cause: Death of Susan Mary McVean & Alexander Cameron McVean

11th April, 1961
William Ronald Torr DULY SWORN STATES.

I am a married man , 29 years of age and I live at 32 McKillop St, Belgian Gardens, Townsville.  I am unemployed at the present.  I was previously a Conductor on the Railway.  I remember the 23rd November, 1961.  I was a passenger in a car being driven by William Joffris Roberts and we were returning to Townsville from Charters Towers.  We left Charters Towers at approx. 9:30pm.  As we come over the rise on the way home from the Towers, I saw what appeared to be a motor accident. That was approx. 7 or 8 miles from Charters Towers.  We come over this rise and saw what appeared to be an accident and we slowed right down and drove past this scene and I heard a female voice cry out, "God please God help us."  We parked the vehicle not too far past these other two vehicles and ran back to the scene.  I then remembered that I had a torch in my port in the back of Robert's car so I ran back to the car and got that torch.  I noticed that one vehicle was a Zephyr Sedan and the other was an International Panel Van.  Mr Roberts who I knew to be a qualified Railway ambulance officer was looking in the Zephyr when I arrived with the torch.

About this time, there was a Mainline Ford coming in the direction form Charters Towers and I ran up the road and waved my torch to stop him and when he stopped I asked him to proceed to Charters Towers and contact the ambulance and also the Police there.  He did that.  I noticed the persons in the Zephyr sedan.  There were four persons.  The girl was not behind the steering wheel.  She was beside the steering wheel in the front seat and the lady I now know as Mrs McVean she was also in the front seat in the passenger side and she had her head down in the corner above the glove box and I could not see her face; only the back of her head.  She was not moving.  She did not show any signs of life.  I assisted the young woman from the driver's seat out of the car through the back door.  The front seat had a big bow in it.  I think it might not be because we couldn't open the front door. I think it was because the steering wheel and the back of the front seat were too close together.  In the back seat of the Zephyr, on the driver's side, I noticed a man and he was sort of bent up and on the floor between the cushion and the squab which is referred to as the back part of the front seat.  Mr Roberts had previously told me to see if we could get some blankets or bed clothes or mattresses or something.  I went away to get some.  I placed this injured man on the bed.  I assisted on getting him out after I had got the linen.  He was groaning and appeared to be badly injured.  I also noticed a young lad on the passenger side of the back seat.  He was in a very shocked condition.

I think he got out on his own, but he was the last out.  The two people in the back seat were McVeans but I do not know their Christian names.  I know they were the McVean family but I don't know any other details.  Whilst I was at the scene, the ambulance arrived and also the Police.  It seemed a long time after but I don't know how long.  There was a lot of traffic went past while I was there.  I was directing traffic in between time.  I saw the 3 injured McVean family conveyed away in the ambulance and also the driver of the International Van.  I have since heard his name but I don't know what his name is.  I also saw a hearse arrive and remove the body of the deceased Mrs McVean.  I did not speak to the driver of the International Van at that time.  I did not observe any liquor on any person at the scene.  I did not detect or smell liquor on any person at the scene.  The conditions of the lighting on the Zephyr when I arrived at the scene; the tail lights of the Zephyr were on, and the headlights, I'm not too sure but I think they were out.  I did see lights on the dash of the Zephyr indicative of what the headlights of the Zephyr sedan might have been at the time of the accident.   The red pilot light on the dash was showing which indicates high beam.  I did not take any noting of the International vehicle.  The lights were all out.  The motors of both vehicles were stopped.  On the dash of the International there were no lights or there were no other lights.  The lenzes of the vehicles, I don't remember entirely as to the condition of the lights whether they were intact or smashed.  Both vehicles were locked together on the passenger side of each vehicle but I don't remember what the headlights were like on the driver's side of the other vehicle.  It was impossible to see the lights on the passenger side of either vehicle.  The road where they were, was straight for a fair way on a down hill grade facing Townsville way.  The Zephyr was facing in the Townsville direction. 

In relation to the correct driving side of the roadway, the Zephyr was on its correct side of the road, not in the middle on its right side, pretty close to be parallel to the road.  The direction of the International was facing towards Charters Towers and he was on the wrong side of the road.  He had a slight angle to the road.  The driver side wheel of the International were off the bitumen and not on the road.  The whole vehicle was at an angle.  It was on its incorrect driving side of the road.  The road there is made up of bitumen and gravel on each side, at the scene.

The bitumen is wide enough  for two vehicles to pass with safety without going over onto the gravel edges.  I don't know the width there.  It was approx wide enough for two cars to safely pass each other and still be on the bitumen. There is not any lines on the bitumen at that particular place to my recollection.  The gravel of the bitumen, I don't recall at that particular place.  The weather was fine and the road surface was dry.  The conditions were clear for driving.

On the 23rd November, I do not recollect having passed or having been passed by, any of the vehicles involved in the accident prior to that time. I don't recollect having seen these vehicles prior to coming to the scene of the accident.  I did not see any of the vehicles shifted from their positions at the scene prior to the arriving of the police.  The vehicles weren't interfered with in any shape of form from the time I got there to the time the police arrived.  There was one chap wanted to turn out the lights on the dash board of the Zephyr and I told him not to interfere with the vehicle until the police arrived.

By Mr Roberts
Q.    You told us that you were driving in that vehicle with Mr Roberts from Charters Towers in the direction and that you drove past the vehicle in the accident.
A.    Yes.

Q.    Would you tell us whether you had any difficulty in passing those two vehicles.
A.    No. naturally slowed down.

Q.    Can you tell us now whether it was necessary to you in your car to leave the bitumen to enable you to pass those two vehicles.
A.    As we went past those two vehicles being the passenger I was looking out the passenger window at the scene and Mr Roberts was driving and he could have gone off the bitumen.

Q.    If you do not recall that, can you tell us whether a part of your vehicle was on the bitumen.
A.    Yes.

Q.    You are not certain whether the whole was on the bitumen.
A.    Yes, I'm not certain,

Q.    I put it to you that you passed the vehicle on the right hand side of the roadway in the direction of Townsville.
A.    Yes.

Q.    You told us that you could not tell us about two of the headlights because the vehicle was locked together but you didn't tell us how the vehicles were locked together.  Would you tell us how each of the vehicles were locked with the other.
A.    As I recall that night, it seemed as though the passenger side, front side front mudguards were locked.  The International was smashed further into the Zephyr and the Zephyr appeared to have more damage.

Q.    Tell how far from the crest of the hill were these two cars you saw locked together.
A.    They were in a position which you had to get right up on top of the crest until you actually seen them.

Q.    How far were they away from the top of crest of the hill approximately.
A.    I suppose it would be three or four times the width of this court room.  I stopped these oncoming cars I would just have to run two or three times the width of the court room to warn oncoming vehicles.

By MR SUTHERS.
Q.    The girl who was in the Zephyr car when you arrived on the scene was not sitting behind the wheel but towards the passenger side.
A.    Yes.

Q.    The lady was face down with her head on the dash board.
A.    Just above the glove box with her head in that corner.

I got the bedding out of the International Van.  The driver was in a shocked condition, the old chap.  I didn't have a conversation with him.  I don't remember whether he got out of the van or not before the Police arrived.  I do not recall the driving side head lamps of the vehicles.  They were all out.  The only lights you could see was the tail lights of the Zephyr and a red light on the dash.  The police took measurements and photographs.   When the police took the measurements the vehicles were in the same position as when I arrived.  There were not many people stopped in passing vehicles at the scene.  I did not notice whether there were tyremarks or skid marks on the bitumen.  There were skidmarks on the gravel.  The way the vehicles were locked together and because of the gear the International had in the back I could not say what speed they were going.  There was not anything to indicate after the impact.  The way it appeared to me what the Zephyr had come to a complete standstill.  The international was slewed a bit.

RE-EXAMINATION
SERGEANT FITTLER:
Q.    Did the roadway at the scene pass through a clear area or was it timbered on either or one side.
A.    I couldn't say whether it was cleared but there wasn't many trees on the left hand side or the northern side.  It wasn't scrubby country.

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