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19620518 Evidence by William Joffris Roberts, Coroners Court, Cloncurry;

Inquest: Manner & cause: Death of Susan Mary McVean & Alexander Cameron McVean


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19620518 Evidence by William Joffris Roberts, Coroners Court, Cloncurry;

Inquest: Manner & cause: Death of Susan Mary McVean & Alexander Cameron McVean


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19620518 Evidence by William Joffris Roberts, Coroners Court, Cloncurry;

Inquest: Manner & cause: Death of Susan Mary McVean & Alexander Cameron McVean

Coroner's Court,
Cloncurry,
18th May, 1962.

WilliamJoffrisRoberts

WilliamJoffrisRoberts

Witness on Oath states:
My full name is William Joffris Roberts.  I am a married man, 45 years of age.  I reside at 21 Eva Street, Cloncurry.  I am now a railway accounts clerk for Hornibrooks.  I remember Thursday 23rd November, 1961.  At about 9.45pm on that day I was travelling from Charters Towers to Townsville in my private vehicle.  I was accompanied by Ronald William Torr. 

About 5 miles from Charters Towers towards Townsville I observed two cars locked together, and as I passed the one nearest to me, a ladies voice called out "Please God help us", and by the light that was on the car I could see that there had been an accident.  I pulled around the front of the cars.

Mr Torr and myself got out of my vehicle and returned to the scene.  I made a superficial examination of the occupants of the car.  Just then another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, that is from Charters Towers towards Townsville pulled up and I asked him would he return to Charters Towers as fast as he could for police and the ambulance, and this he did. One car was an International Panel Van.  It was coloured red. I found out the other car was a light coloured green Zephyr Sedan.  There were four people in the Zephyr.  In the front seat on the near side was an elderly woman sitting with severe head injuries and on her right hand side was a young lady.  That was the driver of the vehicle, sitting jammed behind the steering wheel, up against the dashboard.

In the rear seat of the vehicle were two men, an elderly man who was half laying on the floor, and half on the seat with his head to the near side, with his feet to the offside, and there was a young chap sitting in the corner on the off side directly behind the steering wheel.  I noticed that the elderly lady was severely injured around the head.  The injuries appeared extensive.  First of all I went around and saw the driver of the panel van.  He was sitting behind the steering wheel in a rather dazed condition.  He did not appear to be injured. I asked him if he was alright and he said "yes".  I than asked him if he had any blankets or mattresses in his panel van.  He told me whatever was there I could make use of.  Torr and myself then got blankets and a mattress out of the van, went around to the Zephyr and I could see that the first to be treated would be the chap I now know as Mr McVean.  He was the elderly person.  I opened the door; the rear offside door, and McVean jnr. as I now know him.  I got him out and he appeared to be alright, and we then spread a blanket on the roadway and Torr and myself then lifted McVean Snr from the vehicle and laid him out on the roadway with his Son sitting at his head for support. 
The girl Alison McVean then climbed over the back of the front seat and got out of the car through the rear off door and sat with her father and brother. 


From my observations at the time of the arrival at the accident, I could see that there was no hope of Mrs McVean Snr so she was left to last to be removed from the vehicle.  I then went around to the near side of the Zephyr, opened the door, and lifted Mrs McVean from the front seat and laid her out on the mattress which I had prepared before.  I tested her for signs of life by looking into her eyes, feeling her pulse and holding my glasses close to her mouth and nose.  I have been a member of the ambulance for 27 years. I have done an examination in the Ambulance every year since 1934.  I was of the opinion that Mrs McVean was dead on my arrival.  Mr McVean Snr was alive.  He was speaking with his son and daughter.  After I had done that, the ambulance arrived and I showed him where the  patients were and which one required urgent attention.   Torr and myself assisted the bearer to put Mr McVean Snr on the stretcher and into the ambulance car.  The son and daughter got into the front seat of the ambulance under their own efforts.  The daughter appeared to have a bit of a scratch on her left elbow.  I cannot remember the son having any injuries at all. I did  not notice any.  They did not tell me anything.

The driver of the International I asked him, "What happened?  Were you going fast?" and he said, "No, I was going along about 15 to 20 mph when the lights came over the hill, dazzled me and I did not know where I was driving."  He was then placed in the ambulance car and taken along with the McVeans to Charters Towers Hospital. [EDIT: Organ stated in hospital that he did not know that a person was killed in the collision.]  He was the only occupant of the panel van.  During my examination and assisting these people I was quite close to them.  I did not detect or smell any liquor on any of them. 

I did not detect or locate any bottles of liquor in the vehicles.  When I saw the Zephyr, it was very near to the centre of the road; closer to the near side than the offside.  The international would be proceeding towards Charters Towers on the near side of the road.  It was on the right hand side of the road going towards Charters Towers.  The panel van was on its incorrect side, at an angle of about 60degrees.  The driver side back wheel was off the bitumen and the wheel on the other side was on the bitumen, and both the front wheels were on the bitumen.

The Zephyr was not at an angle.  It was straight.  It was off the centre towards the left side on the way to Townsville.  It was towards its correct side.  Both vehicles were locked together by the two near side mudguards.  They were really jammed together.   The mudguard and the front wheel and the front tortion bar and the door was jammed back onto the front seat where the elderly lady was sitting on the Zephyr.  The front of the vehicle would be nearly a write off.  It was a new car about two or three years old.  I do not remember the number of it. 

The International's mudguard on the near side was badly bent into towards the engine. The doors were not jammed. The radiator was pushed back onto the engine on an angle.  I did not take any notice of the tyres. 

I did not observe any skid marks in the immediate vicinity. I did not look for them.  It was a dark night.  We had torches at the time.  I turned my own car around and put my lights on. When I arrived the lights on the Zephyr. It had one light on the driver's side and it was still on.  I had a look on the dashboard.  I saw that the little red indicator light was on, indicating that the lights were on high beam.  The near side light of the Zephyr was smashed. The interior lights or the Zephyr were on.  I did not observe that the doors of the vehicle were slightly open on my arrival. There were no lights on the International.  I found out later that the battery wire had been broken.  The ignition was switched on and the light switch was pulled out, indicating that the lights had been on.  I formed the opinion that the impact had forced the battery out of position.  The headlight on the side where the impact occurred was broken.

About 500 yards on the Charters Towers side of the accident, you cross a creek known as Chinaman Creek and coming up out of this creek there is a slight grade.   It rises about 25 feet in a hundred yards or thereabouts.  It is a road out of a river.  Once you got to the crest of the rise, from there to the point of the impact would be about 3 or 4 hundred yards.  I would say that would be a reasonable margin.  It would not be much less than three hundred yards.  It was a straight road with no obstructions. At that place the road is straight for about 2 miles before it takes a slight bend.  Any vehicle travelling in either direction would have a clear view.  The road surface was good.  It was bitumen with gravel sides,with plenty of room.  It is a good wide road. No cars passed me going in the same direction as me and there were no cars at the time, in the vicinity.  Just after we arrived at the time of the accident there would have been 70 to 80 cars pass on the way to Townsville, returning from Charters Towers.  All these cars were diverted around the accident by Mr Torr. 

I have driven over this road many times and I have a good knowledge of the road day and night.   I would not give any opinion as to the cause of this accident.  The people in the Zephyr did not make any mention of how the accident occurred.  There was no mention of speeding.  I did not hear the McVean family talking amongst themselves.  The boy and the girl were too stupified to know that they were even there, I think.

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